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there is a federal terrorism law. and the use of explosive devices in the course of terrorism is not only a federal crime, it is a federal crime that potentially carries the death penalty. >> when you say that, is there not also -- forgive me for not knowing the wording of the federal statute, but exploding a device in a public place causing death is also something that carries the death penalty. >> that's right. >> so video perhaps -- >> that's right. >> okay. >> remember, we are such an early stage of this process. you know, we are all taking it as a given that the fbi and other law enforcement have identified the two brothers as the people who set off the bomb. we don't know what the evidence is of that. we haven't seen evidence -- we haven't seen them setting off the bomb. we haven't seen them admitting it. now, supposedly one or both of them admitted it to the carja carjacking victim, but i think we just need to slow down a little bit and say, you know, what is the proof here. >> sure. >> i assume the government
there is a federal terrorism law. and the use of explosive devices in the course of terrorism is not only a federal crime, it is a federal crime that potentially carries the death penalty. >> when you say that, is there not also -- forgive me for not knowing the wording of the federal statute, but exploding a device in a public place causing death is also something that carries the death penalty. >> that's right. >> so video perhaps -- >> that's right. >> okay....
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he was here as a lawful permanent resident. did he -- the thing i think that's the biggest question for investigators now is, "a," why did he turn this way? but, "b," where did he get his expertise in explosives? where did he practice them? it seems really unlikely these two bombs successfully were detonated without some practice runs. where did he learn to do that? where did he practice? those are the big questions. >> we look at the pictures of the suspects and biographical information we have, dzhokhar, who is the surviving suspect here, dzhokhar tsarnaev, is in in custody, in the hospital. tamerlan born in kyrgystan, comes in 2002. he becomes a u.s. citizen, 9/11/2012. he was a wrestler, enrolled at the university of massachusetts-dartmouth. so many friends talking so positively about him. tamerlan, his older brother, does that travel. he comes later than his younger brother. he was married, had a 3-year-old daughter. had a domestic violence incident. he dropped out of community college. he was a competitive boxer. people s
he was here as a lawful permanent resident. did he -- the thing i think that's the biggest question for investigators now is, "a," why did he turn this way? but, "b," where did he get his expertise in explosives? where did he practice them? it seems really unlikely these two bombs successfully were detonated without some practice runs. where did he learn to do that? where did he practice? those are the big questions. >> we look at the pictures of the suspects and...
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you're seeing a lot of law enforcement, the national guard. we've heard the navy is assisting the investigation. the back bay, if you've been to boston, is usually a very popular area, a very busy area, especially after the marathon. these bars are going crazy usually after the marathon with people celebrating. right now everything is shut down. everyone around here is looking for answers. they're coming up to reporters, going up to police officers, trying to figure out why anybody would do this. of course, there are so few answers as of now. again, the white house and homeland security chairman are saying it appeared to be terrorism. it happened around the four hour mark of the race, around the finish line. that's when most of the racers usually finish. it looks like it was intended to cause the most damage. right afterwards there was certainly a scene of chaos. the first explosion it seemed people didn't know quite what happened. maybe it could have been an accident. 15 seconds later when the second explosion went off, people knew something
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i think that we'll follow the evidence the way law enforcement people do. being a former d.a., that's -- you only know what you know. and they're sorting those things out. i can tell you this, that the fusion center here, where the federal law enforcement people work with the state law enforcement people, and the local is one of the finest in the whole country. it's rated that way. so there's no question in my mind that that group added the assets of the entire country right now, that the president is calling on, will bring the person responsible to justice. it's that level of confidence right now. but it's hard to even go there when you're sitting there, you know, people that you know, people that know other people, have been injured in this, and this terrible incident, three have already lost their lives. >> yeah. >> it's hard to get past that now, but the professionals that are doing this are doing that. and they will bring that person to justice. >> it is -- one of the reasons i wanted to get specific about the details we have from the hospitals is beca
i think that we'll follow the evidence the way law enforcement people do. being a former d.a., that's -- you only know what you know. and they're sorting those things out. i can tell you this, that the fusion center here, where the federal law enforcement people work with the state law enforcement people, and the local is one of the finest in the whole country. it's rated that way. so there's no question in my mind that that group added the assets of the entire country right now, that the...
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and that's what law enforcement authorities are telling us, wolf. >> and these are federal charges, joe, so the attorney general, eric holder, he makes this decision, specific charges, when they're filed. it goes to the attorney general, right? >> well, it certainly is likely to go to the attorney general because of the attention this case has gotten. also, any decision as to whether to charge the defendant with a crime that is punishable by death is certainly something the attorney general of the united states would weigh in on. and that's what we're talking about, at least the potential of, for right now, wolf. >> all right, joe, we'll keep in close touch with you. i know you're working your sources at the justice department and the fbi. as soon as you get word, you'll let us know. we'll go into breaking news on that front. joe johns reporting from washington. meanwhile, the defense secretary chuck hagel spoke about the bombing investigation today. he said so far he has not seen any intelligence directly linking the surviving suspect and his older brother, the 26-year-old tamerlan tsa
and that's what law enforcement authorities are telling us, wolf. >> and these are federal charges, joe, so the attorney general, eric holder, he makes this decision, specific charges, when they're filed. it goes to the attorney general, right? >> well, it certainly is likely to go to the attorney general because of the attention this case has gotten. also, any decision as to whether to charge the defendant with a crime that is punishable by death is certainly something the attorney...
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but he was exchanging fire apparently with law enforcement in the area. who these men are, and why they did this are still questions we have today. more after a quick break here on fox news as we continue to follow this developing story. [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. celebrex can be taken with or without food. and it's not a narcotic. you and your doctor should balance the benefits with the risks. all prescription nsaids, like celebrex, ibuprofen, naproxen and meloxicam have the same cardiovascular warning. they all may increase the chance of heart at
but he was exchanging fire apparently with law enforcement in the area. who these men are, and why they did this are still questions we have today. more after a quick break here on fox news as we continue to follow this developing story. [ male announcer ] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription...
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most americans think that's already the law. a few minutes ago, 90% of democrats in the senate voted for that idea. but it's not going to happen because 90% of republicans in the senate just voted against that idea. the gun lobby and its allies willfully lied about the bill. they claimed that it would create some sort of big brother gun registry. even though the bill did the opposite. this legislation in fact outlawed any registry, plain and simple, right there in the text. but that didn't matter. and unfortunately, spreading untruths about this legislation served the purpose because those lies upset an intense minority of gun owners and that in turn intimidated a lot of senators. there were no coherent arguments as to why we wouldn't do this. it came down to politics. the worry that that vocal minority of gun owners would come after them in future elections. they worried that the gun lobby would spend a lot of money and paint them as anti-second amendment. obviously a lot of republicans had that fear but democrats had that fear
most americans think that's already the law. a few minutes ago, 90% of democrats in the senate voted for that idea. but it's not going to happen because 90% of republicans in the senate just voted against that idea. the gun lobby and its allies willfully lied about the bill. they claimed that it would create some sort of big brother gun registry. even though the bill did the opposite. this legislation in fact outlawed any registry, plain and simple, right there in the text. but that didn't...
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a number of plots have been thwarted and stopped by lawn enforcement, this was -- law enforcement. this was not one of them. these two bombers, these killers, these terrorists were successful. and unfortunately for three families who lostoved ones and 160 others who are wounded, their lives are forever changed and affected. these bombersere successful. and your point is well-taken about whether or not there are more out there. and right now we cannot answer that. jay cney -- jay carill talk if there is a white house this afternoon. >> reporter: that mit policeman has been killed overnight as well. that is another death that these two brothers apparently were involved in. ure exactly right, but, you know, look, to be realistic, the traordinary story of the last decade is not that they are still out there, it's how incredibly successful and in some cases lucky we've been. remember richard reid the shoe mber, he would have taken down that plane if his explosive in his shoe had gone off. the underwear bomber on christmas day over detroit, who d have taken down that plane if his explosi
a number of plots have been thwarted and stopped by lawn enforcement, this was -- law enforcement. this was not one of them. these two bombers, these killers, these terrorists were successful. and unfortunately for three families who lostoved ones and 160 others who are wounded, their lives are forever changed and affected. these bombersere successful. and your point is well-taken about whether or not there are more out there. and right now we cannot answer that. jay cney -- jay carill talk if...
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>> we've asked through law enforcement for photographs and video tape. everybody has a smart phone and you can imagine thousands and thousands of images. every single one of those is combed. as the forensic investigators piece together what type of device and what type of container it was held until that helps folks reviewing the photos and videos to understand what exactly we should be looking for. >> rose: i want to thank you. i know it's a busy day and i don't want to take longer than i asked for and your people so graciously promised me on a busy day. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: as you know, people around the world because it was such an international event have been deeply saddened by this and i think their hopes and their prayers and their encouragement to the people of the commonwealth of massachusetts is strong and deep as you know. thank you for joining us. >> i'm grateful for that, charlie. i have received messages from friends and people i've never met from all over the country and all over the world expressing support for us here in bosto
>> we've asked through law enforcement for photographs and video tape. everybody has a smart phone and you can imagine thousands and thousands of images. every single one of those is combed. as the forensic investigators piece together what type of device and what type of container it was held until that helps folks reviewing the photos and videos to understand what exactly we should be looking for. >> rose: i want to thank you. i know it's a busy day and i don't want to take longer...
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and we pledged to perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by law. when i recited this pledge last week, i could not imagine that work of national importance by civilians would be required here in boston so soon, but now all of us need to take up this pledge. we all have service to perform, and indeed we are all moved by the thousands of people who stepped forward in a moment of tragedy and confusion to serve. i want to salute everyone who ran towards the victim despite risk to themselves. everyone who gave blood, everyone who volunteered, shelter for stranded runners. i want to salute the members of law enforcement who are protecting us as we speak and to thank the people around the world who are sending messages of hope and solidarity. before us all the civilian work of national and even international interest. no one has to take a formal oath. we knew instinctively that we must rise to the occasion and act because of our common humanity. that is what makes us americans. one nation, under god, and now a prayer. dear god, oh, compassionate one, oh,
and we pledged to perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by law. when i recited this pledge last week, i could not imagine that work of national importance by civilians would be required here in boston so soon, but now all of us need to take up this pledge. we all have service to perform, and indeed we are all moved by the thousands of people who stepped forward in a moment of tragedy and confusion to serve. i want to salute everyone who ran towards the...
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you welcomed me as a young law student across the river. you welcomed michelle, too. you welcomed me -- welcomed me during a convention when i was still a state senator and very few people could pronounce my name right. like you, michelle and i have walked these streets. like you, we know these neighborhoods. like you, in this moment of grief, we join you in saying boston, you're my home. for millions of us, what happened on monday is personal. it's personal. today our prayers are with the campbell family of medford. they're here today. their daughter crystal was always smiling. those who knew her said with her red hair and freckles and her ever-eager willingness to speak her mind, she was beautiful, sometimes she would be a little noisy. and everybody loved her for it. she would have turned 30 next month. as her mother said, through her tears, this doesn't make any sense. our prayers are with the liu family of china, who sent their daughter to b.u. so she could experience all this city has to offer. she was a 23-year-old student far from home. and in the heartache of
you welcomed me as a young law student across the river. you welcomed michelle, too. you welcomed me -- welcomed me during a convention when i was still a state senator and very few people could pronounce my name right. like you, michelle and i have walked these streets. like you, we know these neighborhoods. like you, in this moment of grief, we join you in saying boston, you're my home. for millions of us, what happened on monday is personal. it's personal. today our prayers are with the...
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it all ended tonight as one law enforcement official put it with a whimper. inside a boat in a trailer in a backyard in watertown, massachusetts. then it ended with a genuine cheer. all those first responders, cops, firemen as they exited town. the town that was terrorized by a gun battle in the streets last night. they were all cheered. and they had a chance to shine. bask in the glow of joyful citizens who were just thankful, they came in, they rode in to save the day. kate snow was there amid all of it tonight. and she is joining us tonight to start it all off. kate, good evening. >> good evening to you, brian. let's remember what this week has been like. a week that seemed like it would just never end in boston. on monday you had the devastating bombings at the marathon. a couple of days later last night, the fbi holds a press conference showing video and pictures of two key suspects and asking the public for help. the first sign of a major development in the manhunt came about 10:00 p.m. eastern time thursday, about five hours after the fbi news conferen
it all ended tonight as one law enforcement official put it with a whimper. inside a boat in a trailer in a backyard in watertown, massachusetts. then it ended with a genuine cheer. all those first responders, cops, firemen as they exited town. the town that was terrorized by a gun battle in the streets last night. they were all cheered. and they had a chance to shine. bask in the glow of joyful citizens who were just thankful, they came in, they rode in to save the day. kate snow was there...
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you'll remember that we have been reporting that law enforcement authorities had issued a bulletin to other investigators to be on the lookout for someone who might have been carrying a black backpack in the area of the explosions right before they occurred. so this might go hand in hand with that. we also heard governor deval patrick of massachusetts announce not long ago that there were two bombs and two bombs only. he went on to say that another device that had been found or a suspicious package, rather, that had been found, was blown up as a precautionary measure. so he said they're working with two bombs. we don't have information at this time any or details about the second bomb that was found, michael. >> can didcandy, this is suzann. did the law enforcement official tell you significance of the information, if it -- the pressure cooker if it might have created more shrapnel or if this was a crude device and how this would have impacted the injuries, kinds of injuries we saw in the blast? >> reporter: because it was made of metal, you're right that could have hidden shrapnel pl
you'll remember that we have been reporting that law enforcement authorities had issued a bulletin to other investigators to be on the lookout for someone who might have been carrying a black backpack in the area of the explosions right before they occurred. so this might go hand in hand with that. we also heard governor deval patrick of massachusetts announce not long ago that there were two bombs and two bombs only. he went on to say that another device that had been found or a suspicious...
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enforcement and local law enforcement. in the 1993 world trade center bombing because that was really a federal facility, the federal government got involved but immediately almost had a fistfight between fbi and atf. so now what you've got it looks like a good working relationship between president obama and governor deval patrick has allowed a very smooth handoff from the boston police to the fbi. in watching just the press conferences so far, they've been sending the right signals of having a joint communicative working relationship. and that's critical to having an effective investigation. >> you and i were talking before about lockerbie, how you could determine through finding little particles of machinery that this was perhaps done by a certain kind of detonator. how far along are we? we already know now it was something to do with a circuit board. what does that tell you? >> they're saying they found a circuit board. how big of a piece, we don't know. remember in another case, it was about the size of your thumbnail
enforcement and local law enforcement. in the 1993 world trade center bombing because that was really a federal facility, the federal government got involved but immediately almost had a fistfight between fbi and atf. so now what you've got it looks like a good working relationship between president obama and governor deval patrick has allowed a very smooth handoff from the boston police to the fbi. in watching just the press conferences so far, they've been sending the right signals of having...
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state law is also broken. typically in a terrorism context, domestically, we'd see that prosecution and several avenues to pursue the death penalty against the suspect. >> okay. thank you for that, ari. joining us now, again, james cavanaugh, hostage negotiator at the atf, as well as special agent in charge and former fbi criminal profiler clint van zandt. james, clear up something for me based on what we just heard. they're no longer looking for a third person. dzhokhar is the only person they're looking for. some folks were being allowed to leave work and go home. we also heard from governor patrick people should stay in their homes. putting all of these pieces together in your opinion, do they have dzhokhar cornered or do not know where he is? >> well, i think they think they have him in an area near watertown that's a block or some houses you keep seeing on the feed there. they think he's in there. they've set up a heavy perimeter there with the s.w.a.t. and srt teams and doing a methodical search. fact th
state law is also broken. typically in a terrorism context, domestically, we'd see that prosecution and several avenues to pursue the death penalty against the suspect. >> okay. thank you for that, ari. joining us now, again, james cavanaugh, hostage negotiator at the atf, as well as special agent in charge and former fbi criminal profiler clint van zandt. james, clear up something for me based on what we just heard. they're no longer looking for a third person. dzhokhar is the only...
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. >> reporter: law enforcement officials say the bombs contained an explosive similar to black powder. they were laced with bbs, ball bearings and nails. trauma surgeon said many of the injured have multiple shrapnel wounds. >> they are numerous, numerous. there are people who have 10, 20, 30, 40 of them in their body or more. >> reporter: investigators believe the bombs were hidden in black nylon backpacks. and housed inside sealable metal pots called pressure cookers. pressure cooker bombs can help boost the power of relatively small devices by briefly constraining the blast. and when the cookers do explode, they can add large chunks of metal to the shrapnel spray. the i.e.d.s have been popular with terrorists. al qaeda published a how-to recipe in an on-line magazine. several of the bombs were used in the 2006 attack on trains in mumbai india. in 2004 and 2010, the department of homeland security warned law enforcement that pressure cooker bombs could present a threat in the u.s. in the failed time square attack in may 2010, a pressure cooker was found amid the bomb component in th
. >> reporter: law enforcement officials say the bombs contained an explosive similar to black powder. they were laced with bbs, ball bearings and nails. trauma surgeon said many of the injured have multiple shrapnel wounds. >> they are numerous, numerous. there are people who have 10, 20, 30, 40 of them in their body or more. >> reporter: investigators believe the bombs were hidden in black nylon backpacks. and housed inside sealable metal pots called pressure cookers....
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do you think this terror attack would put a new heat on lawmakers for tighter gun laws? >> i hope so. it's kind of -- the bombs are a reach from the gun legislation. they did have guns. i don't know if they were illegal or legal. but we are not pollyannas. we know that not every gun violent issue and incident will be stopped by a background check. it certainly will stop some and if you're the one that's going to get the call or prevent from getting the call saying your 9-year-old daughter is at umc and you need to get there right away because she's been murdered, you know, that is powerful. that's powerful. and i used to think the worst thing i could imagine was roxanna and john green holding the lifeless body of their 9-year-old. but there's something worse and those not being able to hold the lifeless body of your child. and that's what the newtown people had to experience. and i think our senators and our representatives need to take a serious look at how damaging gun violence is. in the body and in the mind. it's just unacceptable. we're a smart people, we should be
do you think this terror attack would put a new heat on lawmakers for tighter gun laws? >> i hope so. it's kind of -- the bombs are a reach from the gun legislation. they did have guns. i don't know if they were illegal or legal. but we are not pollyannas. we know that not every gun violent issue and incident will be stopped by a background check. it certainly will stop some and if you're the one that's going to get the call or prevent from getting the call saying your 9-year-old daughter...
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if so do you think that law needs to be looked at? >> that is an area that we looked at, as well, when department of homeland security introduced a program that was routinely looking at postings that were done in a publicly available way. we questioned the extent to which government ought to be looking at that kind of information. the privacy officers had some guidelines that allowed that to fall within the correct action but is it different once you have some measure of effectively probable cause to believe that somebody may be inclined towards terrorism? and then they are posting jihadist messages. does that allow you to use a higher level of scrutiny on them? i think these are all issues that are going to be developed as we move forward. >> one thing is what we are doing internally and the other is our relationship with foreign governments. there is an indication that u.s. officials wanted to get more information of activities from tamerlan tsarnaev from the russian government but say they never got back to them. >> you have the ru
if so do you think that law needs to be looked at? >> that is an area that we looked at, as well, when department of homeland security introduced a program that was routinely looking at postings that were done in a publicly available way. we questioned the extent to which government ought to be looking at that kind of information. the privacy officers had some guidelines that allowed that to fall within the correct action but is it different once you have some measure of effectively...
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my stepfather practiced law in these two towns where these men carried these things out. it is horrible and hard for us. i feel that jihadists want to us blame all muslims. pizza religious war. but there is a responsibility. american muslims need to come out more. these people in louisville hold open houses in their mosques so people can see what they do and it is not so shrouded in mystery. more broadly speaking, when we look at the middle east, people see chaos. >> which you've tried to explain in beyond war. you look through the arab spring and you take it country by country. there are big differences in the way tonig way they see them. >> there is this epic struggle for power and for control between conservative muslims. some of them are very violent and more liberal secular ones. and frankly, we need to do a better job of seeing that, what's happening. it is not chaos. this is a very real power struggle and figure out how can we help those moderates. we are less dependent on energy from the middle east. the chinese economy will depend on that oil from the middle east
my stepfather practiced law in these two towns where these men carried these things out. it is horrible and hard for us. i feel that jihadists want to us blame all muslims. pizza religious war. but there is a responsibility. american muslims need to come out more. these people in louisville hold open houses in their mosques so people can see what they do and it is not so shrouded in mystery. more broadly speaking, when we look at the middle east, people see chaos. >> which you've tried to...
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so law enforcement enacted basically an effort not to read tsarnaev his miranda rights. that means not telling him he has the right to remain silent under what they call the public safety exception, allows them to get as much information as they can within the immediate hours after his arrest. in case there is information about other plots or perhaps other accomplices but it's li likely that he hasn't even been questioned yet because of his state, his serious condition, that this may not matter. he may have been read his miranda rights by a judge as early as tomorrow. the republican lawmakers, of course, say the public safety exception doesn't go far enough, that he should be treated as an enemy combatant. we do not want this suspect to have the right to remain silent. here is a little bit more about what they said. i'll put this graphic up on the screen. this is from a statement released by those republican lawmakers who say we have concerns limiting this investigation to 48 hours and exclusively relying on the public safety exception of miranda could very well be a nat
so law enforcement enacted basically an effort not to read tsarnaev his miranda rights. that means not telling him he has the right to remain silent under what they call the public safety exception, allows them to get as much information as they can within the immediate hours after his arrest. in case there is information about other plots or perhaps other accomplices but it's li likely that he hasn't even been questioned yet because of his state, his serious condition, that this may not...
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new jersey's existing gun laws are already among the strictest in the nation. by the way, christie's move is a reminder he's still running for re-election, not for 2016 yet. >>> as we wait for formal charges to be brought against the 19-year-old marathon bombing suspect federal and state authorities are trying to determine what led up to last monday's attack and what red flags might have been missed. for more on that joined by nbc's national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. it seems to me the unanswered question everybody would like to know of, number one, where did these guys test? nobody believes this was the first time they did these bombs on monday. that they must have tested them somewhere. the second, what was tamerlan, the older brother, doing in russia for six months? >> reporter: exactly. there's so many unanswered questions here. but let's start with the -- that russian report to the fbi in 2011 asking them to investigate tamerlan. what sparked that -- the russian request? what information do they have? the fbi says that the russians didn'
new jersey's existing gun laws are already among the strictest in the nation. by the way, christie's move is a reminder he's still running for re-election, not for 2016 yet. >>> as we wait for formal charges to be brought against the 19-year-old marathon bombing suspect federal and state authorities are trying to determine what led up to last monday's attack and what red flags might have been missed. for more on that joined by nbc's national investigative correspondent michael isikoff....
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i mean, the lockdown turned boston into almost a state of martial law. in the public garden we saw the swan boats were just sitting there. they were floating in the lagoon. nobody was there. they've been a boston tradition for over 130 years. in the boston common there were more s.w.a.t. teams than people. usually, that's a place where workers and runners go by the thousands. the freedom trail, which is the red brick line that takes tourists and school children to all the historic sites in this city, connected to the american revolution, no one was walking the freedom trail. it was a very unusual day. and yet, even though people were inconvenienced, even though they were told to stay in their homes, people i talked to, brian, as the lockdown went on, they all said one thing, they didn't want the suspect to be killed when he was captured. they wanted him to be taken alive because more than anything they want answers as to why those two men did what they did to the city of boston, to the boston marathon, and to this country because people don't understand
i mean, the lockdown turned boston into almost a state of martial law. in the public garden we saw the swan boats were just sitting there. they were floating in the lagoon. nobody was there. they've been a boston tradition for over 130 years. in the boston common there were more s.w.a.t. teams than people. usually, that's a place where workers and runners go by the thousands. the freedom trail, which is the red brick line that takes tourists and school children to all the historic sites in this...
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so the fbi does what it says it's able to do under the law. they looked at whether he was in any of the federal databases of suspected terrorists or whether there was any indication that he was communicating either by phone or my looking at internet sites with any suspected terrorist organizations or individuals. they looked at his travel, travel history, all of that came up negative. so then they decided to interview him. they questioned him, questioned members of his family and after doing all that they said we've got nothing here. they said they went back to the russians -- or they went back to the foreign government and said we can't find anything, give us more. tell us more of what you think, why you think this and they say they never got a response. >> the obama administration has okayed the suspension of the suspect's miranda rights. is that a temporary suspension? >> reporter: yes, by law it is. it's called the public safety exception to the miranda rule. normally you have to tell someone they have a right to remain silent and if you d
so the fbi does what it says it's able to do under the law. they looked at whether he was in any of the federal databases of suspected terrorists or whether there was any indication that he was communicating either by phone or my looking at internet sites with any suspected terrorist organizations or individuals. they looked at his travel, travel history, all of that came up negative. so then they decided to interview him. they questioned him, questioned members of his family and after doing...
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and law-enforcement trying to live with, utilization of social media. and the rumor mill, and really a double-edged sword. the effectiveness when shown then the fbi put the photographs up and get a location on the brothers. melissa: the brother has been characterized, the younger one as following the older one and the insubordinate but you contrast that with the fact that he appears to be taking action from the evidence that we have, he put down a back pack in the video, he continues to be at large, he may have been the one instrumental in going to the atm. why do you put those things together, is he really subordinate to the older brother? >> at this point those are natural questions that everyone is going to ask and wonder why, i am sure the investigators and negotiators that closer to the situation by getting all the information, something we have to keep in mind, we are only getting bits and pieces of the story so it is tough to put that puzzle together when you're missing a lot of pieces of the puzzle. i am sure the investigators close to this case
and law-enforcement trying to live with, utilization of social media. and the rumor mill, and really a double-edged sword. the effectiveness when shown then the fbi put the photographs up and get a location on the brothers. melissa: the brother has been characterized, the younger one as following the older one and the insubordinate but you contrast that with the fact that he appears to be taking action from the evidence that we have, he put down a back pack in the video, he continues to be at...
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it will be against the law. it's not going to happen. on the other hand, i do think we need to keep in mind there may not be a single profile of a terrorist. timothy mcveigh obviously didn't look like or come from the same background as the people that blew up the world trade center, but in this city, anyway with the first world trade center explosion, then to the downing of the towers, subsequent plots, all of the terrorists, people who have tried to commit these acts have been muslim men. that does not mean we have a right or should survey every muslim man. it's not possible, not appropriate, not legal, it's not constitutional, but we do also have to recognize there is a set of facts and a fact pattern, and we need to understand why that's happening. and we need to take steps to do something about it. >> how do you do that in that isn't in a way that you seem to be targeting people ofs muslim faith. there are these common threads, you're going to be looking for people who exhibit those signs. how do you do that in a meaningful way? >>
it will be against the law. it's not going to happen. on the other hand, i do think we need to keep in mind there may not be a single profile of a terrorist. timothy mcveigh obviously didn't look like or come from the same background as the people that blew up the world trade center, but in this city, anyway with the first world trade center explosion, then to the downing of the towers, subsequent plots, all of the terrorists, people who have tried to commit these acts have been muslim men....
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and law enforcement officials need to be careful. it's totally legal and proper in case of an imminent threat to waive the miranda rights but they've got to prove, if we want this guy, if he's guilty of going away for a long time or subject to the death penalty. they have to prove not that he placed the backpack on the parade route or the finish line, but he knew what was in it and he knew what was going to happen. that won't be an easy case to prosecute. unless they do everything right and they don't want to find out something before he is been given the miranda right that they cannot then use in trial. >> mike, the aclu has been i think tough and fair-minded about the administration's use of, the aclu's issues with the obama administration and their sort of tactics in the great war on terror. how much do you think that the white house has sort of come around on some of these issues? i mean there's a lot of talk about the expansion of privileges, a continuation of the bush administration tactics. here's a case where they seem to try
and law enforcement officials need to be careful. it's totally legal and proper in case of an imminent threat to waive the miranda rights but they've got to prove, if we want this guy, if he's guilty of going away for a long time or subject to the death penalty. they have to prove not that he placed the backpack on the parade route or the finish line, but he knew what was in it and he knew what was going to happen. that won't be an easy case to prosecute. unless they do everything right and...
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and i think it's fair to say the law isn't completely clear on this. let's us be clear on what we're talking about here. we're talking about the miranda warning. you have a right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you. you have the right to a lawyer, all that stuff. what the united states government has decided to do is invoke an exception to that rule. which says that when there is a danger to public safety and you need to get answers quickly, you can get the answers without the miranda rights and still use that information in court. so when does the clock tick on that period of the public safety exception? the moment you make an arrest, the moment you begin an interrogation, what? i mean, i think the justice department will take the position that it begins the moment they begin talking to him. but i suppose his lawyers can certainly say that the time had elapsed so much since his arrest that it's hard to assert that exception. my guess is that there's no clear rule here in the federal government. this is kind of a legal rule that'
and i think it's fair to say the law isn't completely clear on this. let's us be clear on what we're talking about here. we're talking about the miranda warning. you have a right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you. you have the right to a lawyer, all that stuff. what the united states government has decided to do is invoke an exception to that rule. which says that when there is a danger to public safety and you need to get answers quickly, you can get the answers...
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and that's what law enforcement is going to determine. there could be individuals who knew them, knew of them but had no reason to believe that they were going to do anything violent. those are some of the most pressing questions right now. so i mean there's three categories here -- the first is bring tsarnaev to justice, hopefully alive. identify any additional packages that could be ieds in the greater boston area. and then third, identify any individuals, other potential suspects or people of interest they just want to question. to understand what the broader conspiracy might have been. >> nbc news terrorism analyst, roger cressey. thanks for your time. >>> i want to bring in nbc's michael isikoff. who is with us in watertown. michael, we were seeing some helicopter activity in the skies over there. we know that there is a no-fly zone over much of boston. the city is on lockdown. can you give us an update? >> exactly, alex. for about the last 15 minutes we've had military style helicopters circling above us here. this is where we are i
and that's what law enforcement is going to determine. there could be individuals who knew them, knew of them but had no reason to believe that they were going to do anything violent. those are some of the most pressing questions right now. so i mean there's three categories here -- the first is bring tsarnaev to justice, hopefully alive. identify any additional packages that could be ieds in the greater boston area. and then third, identify any individuals, other potential suspects or people...
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police and law enforcement are searching high and low for those two men. meantime, in watertown, massachusetts, that's right near boston, a mass impolice and military presence where officials believe the 19-year-old man dzhokhar tsarnaev could be holed up. the crews are planning to wait him out. local police say they could continue through the weekend. nearby in cambridge, that is right near the home of the suspected bombers and their relatives, police plan to perform some sort of controlled explosion. also right now in southern massachusetts, the campus of umass dartmouth is being evacuated. the school has confirmed someone connected to the bombings is enrolled as a student there. we're trying to clear up those details for you. we know this began last night with reports of gunfire on the m.i.t. campus. police say the man shot and killed 26-year-old sean collier, an m.i.t. police officer, who was just sitting in his cruiser. his broad was riddled with several gunshots. the two men car jacked a mercedes suv at gunpoint. police began a chase while those susp
police and law enforcement are searching high and low for those two men. meantime, in watertown, massachusetts, that's right near boston, a mass impolice and military presence where officials believe the 19-year-old man dzhokhar tsarnaev could be holed up. the crews are planning to wait him out. local police say they could continue through the weekend. nearby in cambridge, that is right near the home of the suspected bombers and their relatives, police plan to perform some sort of controlled...
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how the senate was unable to strengthen gun control laws. families of the newtown victims, those children and the teachers and their principal who were gunned down in the connecticut shooting were watching as all this unfolded in the senate. and three of those people are with us. carlee soto, sister of the victoria soto, who died shielding the children in her classroom. she had hid them in a closet, and then the man came in and shot her. erica lafferty, the daughter of dawn hochsprung, the brave principal of sandy hook elementary. she was in a meeting. she heard the first shots. ran into the hallway. she ideal at the gunman to stay back, and then lunged at him, and then finally, neil heslin, father of six-year-old jesse lewis, one of the students who was hiding in vicki soto's school. it must have been very difficult for you all this week, in light of this other story that was unfolding in boston. you must just-- your emotioning must have been almost out of control after what you'd been through even before this. >> it was unbelievable that w
how the senate was unable to strengthen gun control laws. families of the newtown victims, those children and the teachers and their principal who were gunned down in the connecticut shooting were watching as all this unfolded in the senate. and three of those people are with us. carlee soto, sister of the victoria soto, who died shielding the children in her classroom. she had hid them in a closet, and then the man came in and shot her. erica lafferty, the daughter of dawn hochsprung, the...
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late word from two federal law enforcement officials that there is an arrest in connection, as erin said, with the poison letters sent to the u.s. president and the u.s. senator. new developments as well in the bombing case to tell you about. and obviously, it has been a roller coaster day for people here, emotionally and in terms of the facts of the story, it is not over yet. a short time ago, the fbi, again, postponed a news briefing that was originally pushed back from the 5:00 hour. it was supposed to be then at the top of the 8:00 hour. we don't know why this has been pushed back. we hope to learn more throughout the hour. >>> first, though, we want to check in with joe johns, on the deadly poison letter arrest. joe, you have some news on the arrest. what are you hearing, what is the latest? >> reporter: anderson, this is an individual from tupelo, mississippi, we're told, the home state of senator roger wicker. actually, his hometown, as well. he's one of the people who got one of the mailings. we know of two suspicious letters, a lot of confusion at the united states capitol today
late word from two federal law enforcement officials that there is an arrest in connection, as erin said, with the poison letters sent to the u.s. president and the u.s. senator. new developments as well in the bombing case to tell you about. and obviously, it has been a roller coaster day for people here, emotionally and in terms of the facts of the story, it is not over yet. a short time ago, the fbi, again, postponed a news briefing that was originally pushed back from the 5:00 hour. it was...
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how these people operated and so on and so forth and we don't know all of the information that the law enforcement who, by the way, have done such a great job of putting this whole thing together, all of them, and i'd like to applaud them. nonetheless, that all is taking place and, yes, it was a planned attack. this wasn't anything by happenstance. you look at what we know now about some of the weapons and some of the activities that these people have -- and we still don't know yet -- it hasn't come out to us yet what training that they had and where they may have gotten that training and to whom may have trained them. i think they have truly done a good job of bringing it to the attention. >> "the new york times" found an m-4 assault rifle on the boat where the young suspect was hiding. i mean, where does a teenager get a weapon like that? >> reverend al, he may have gotten it at a robbery. it seems to be unknown whether they were taken at a robbery or purchased in a back alley. it will be interesting to see how they acquired them. your question also about the explosives is very inter
how these people operated and so on and so forth and we don't know all of the information that the law enforcement who, by the way, have done such a great job of putting this whole thing together, all of them, and i'd like to applaud them. nonetheless, that all is taking place and, yes, it was a planned attack. this wasn't anything by happenstance. you look at what we know now about some of the weapons and some of the activities that these people have -- and we still don't know yet -- it hasn't...
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or our laws do not allow the fbi to follow-up in a sound, solid way. there was a lot to be learned from this guy. he was on websites talking about killing americans. he went overseas, as chuck indicated. he was clearly talking about radical ideas. he was visiting radical areas. it's people like this that you don't want to let out of your sight. and this was a mistake. i don't know if our laws are insufficient or the fbi failed, but we're at war with radical islamists and we need to up our game. >> the chairman of the house homeland security committee is also weighing in on this topic. he told our candy crowley that tamerlan tsarnaev received what he called training while in russia and he thinks tsarnaev made more than one trip to the region. we are learning more about the suspects from the russian republic of dagestan where they once lived. cnn can exclusively reveal alleged boston bomber tamerlan tsarnaev, the older brother, had video of jihadists on his youtube channel. let's check in with cnn's phil black in moscow. phil, what do you know about this
or our laws do not allow the fbi to follow-up in a sound, solid way. there was a lot to be learned from this guy. he was on websites talking about killing americans. he went overseas, as chuck indicated. he was clearly talking about radical ideas. he was visiting radical areas. it's people like this that you don't want to let out of your sight. and this was a mistake. i don't know if our laws are insufficient or the fbi failed, but we're at war with radical islamists and we need to up our game....
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i think they were taken by surprise by law enforcement coming on them. i think they had more things planned. i bet where they live, their friends, their phone records, their social media will be a treasure trove of information and we'll eventually work back and find out about them. >> megyn: now i'm just getting in my ear, we're doing the translation. the father is in russia and is speaking in russian is my understanding. now we're translating his tape and we'll show that to the viewers shortly. i'm going to hold you over for a minute, vincent, while we get this ready to show and play for the viewers and ask you what now? what little be th will be the p? how will the police without any sight of them continue. let's say they finish and go door to door, 100% of the homes in the area and they still don't have him, then what? >> this has happened more than once. if at first you don't succeed, try, try again. they may go back and research. they may have to expand the perimeter. i hate to use the word arbitrarily, but they come up with a perimeter they cordon
i think they were taken by surprise by law enforcement coming on them. i think they had more things planned. i bet where they live, their friends, their phone records, their social media will be a treasure trove of information and we'll eventually work back and find out about them. >> megyn: now i'm just getting in my ear, we're doing the translation. the father is in russia and is speaking in russian is my understanding. now we're translating his tape and we'll show that to the viewers...
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the rule of law requires limitations and torture is something that should never been exceeded. as you know, i have famously or infamously called for torture warrants because i believe that torture would occur in extreme ticking bomb cases and i want accountability and visibility, but i don't want torture. >> alan dershowitz, thank you very much indeed. >>> he's the top cop who oversaw the final moments of the week-long nightmare in and around boston. the manhunt that pitted hundreds of police officers against the armed and extremely dangerous tsarnaev brothers. joining me is watertown police chief. chief, thank you first of all for what you and your officers did in the last week because it really was heroic police work. i'm so glad for you that it ended finally with the capture of these two criminals. in terms of the way it went on for you as the week went on, were there moments when you felt we're not going to catch this guy? >> well, we were right at it right from the beginning with our officers there at 12:25 a.m. in the back street of watertown. we didn't have much to think
the rule of law requires limitations and torture is something that should never been exceeded. as you know, i have famously or infamously called for torture warrants because i believe that torture would occur in extreme ticking bomb cases and i want accountability and visibility, but i don't want torture. >> alan dershowitz, thank you very much indeed. >>> he's the top cop who oversaw the final moments of the week-long nightmare in and around boston. the manhunt that pitted...
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law the united states citizens cannot be trialed -- tried rather in military commissions. and it is important to remember that since 9/11 we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. the effective use of the criminal justice system has resulted in the interrogation, conviction and detention of both u.s. citizens and not citizens for acts of terrorism committed inside the united states and around the world. the system has repeatedly proven that it can successfully handle the threat we continue to face. there are a number of examples of this. high profile. the times square bomber, faisal shahzad pleaded guilty and sentenced to life in prison. abdul the so-called underwear bomber was sentenced to life in prison. somali national
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, federal or state law enforcement. that being said, they are human. mistakes sometimes are made. of course, it raises questions when you hear that the government of russia alerted us about this man and he was under questioning, was investigated and nothing happened. if there are questions that can lead to improving the protocol, to improving the process, to maybe catching a bad guy before he does heinous terrorist acts, i say, let's go through the process. we're all going to learn from it. >> we've been talking about the weapons that these guys had. you know the gun control debate is coming into this. l.z., the centers failed to advance gun control that would have ics panded background checks and closed the gun show loophole. on friday, some gun rights activists said that the boston lockdown with residents warned to stay inside and not to answer their doors to anyone but police, they said it was a perfect justification for owning a gun. are we done with new gun control efforts and does this story, what's happening here
, federal or state law enforcement. that being said, they are human. mistakes sometimes are made. of course, it raises questions when you hear that the government of russia alerted us about this man and he was under questioning, was investigated and nothing happened. if there are questions that can lead to improving the protocol, to improving the process, to maybe catching a bad guy before he does heinous terrorist acts, i say, let's go through the process. we're all going to learn from it....
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when we return we're going to get into the law of this case. dzhokhar tsarnaev was formally charged today. he'll be prosecuted through the criminal justice system despite republicans who say he should be treated as an enemy combatant. >>> later, the russian connection. we have new details about the older brother, tamerlan, and his six-month trip overseas to russia, that area, as he became increasingly more devout in his religion and radicalism. >>> here in washington, the marathon bombings have already started to change the debate on things like -- you knew this was coming -- immigration. >>> finally, life started to return to normal this weekend in boston. i was up there as the slow healing begins. this is "hardball." as we say up there, "hardball." the place for politics. >>> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was of course, white house spokesman jay carney short by before 1:00 p.m. today making clear the boston suspect will
when we return we're going to get into the law of this case. dzhokhar tsarnaev was formally charged today. he'll be prosecuted through the criminal justice system despite republicans who say he should be treated as an enemy combatant. >>> later, the russian connection. we have new details about the older brother, tamerlan, and his six-month trip overseas to russia, that area, as he became increasingly more devout in his religion and radicalism. >>> here in washington, the...
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so basically, she would see a lot of her mother-in-law, the brother's mother. she wouldn't see quite as much of dzhokhar, the younger brother, because he was back and forth to college. and i just got to say one thing. for all the talk about tamerlan being so iced and not having any american friends, let's remember he married an american girl named katie from the suburbs of providence, rhode island. so not everything there squares. >> yeah, and we talked to a number of people who considered him a friend over the last several years. so as you say, not everything is square. still learning a lot. i appreciate the update. a lot of questions remain about who the brothers really are, what they are about. in light of the bombings, authorities in massachusetts are looking closely at another crime. the unsolved murder of tamerlan's friend and two others back in 2011. so tell us what we're learning about this triple murder? >> what we know is a team of investigators are looking at it very closely. this was a triple murder that happened about 18 months ago in massachusetts
so basically, she would see a lot of her mother-in-law, the brother's mother. she wouldn't see quite as much of dzhokhar, the younger brother, because he was back and forth to college. and i just got to say one thing. for all the talk about tamerlan being so iced and not having any american friends, let's remember he married an american girl named katie from the suburbs of providence, rhode island. so not everything there squares. >> yeah, and we talked to a number of people who...
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the sister-in-law and brother-in-l brother-in-law? >> the brother-in-law apparently spent most of his time at college, so it is unclear at this point what their relationship was. >> now, what's the fbi -- is sense ny way of knowing what of smell about her? when so many of these cases i've watched through history where somebody does something, of a submersive nature, and the spouse does get targeted for the investigation -- and sometimes incriminated, is there any sense in the behavior of the authorities what their view is of her role of innocence or guilt here? >> you know, like i said earlier, you know, they're asking to interview her. they obviously want to talo her. she was married to him. her lawyer says she is cooperating. as to whether or not they've actually spoken or not, it's unclear. they do obviously want to talk to her. >> i'm waiting to see a report when we find out. that's big news when they sbe t interrogate her. >>> coming up, another day, another republican with an offensive ethnic slur. these guys live in isolation b
the sister-in-law and brother-in-l brother-in-law? >> the brother-in-law apparently spent most of his time at college, so it is unclear at this point what their relationship was. >> now, what's the fbi -- is sense ny way of knowing what of smell about her? when so many of these cases i've watched through history where somebody does something, of a submersive nature, and the spouse does get targeted for the investigation -- and sometimes incriminated, is there any sense in the...
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there were dozens upon dozens of law enforcement officials exchanging gunfire with him. apparently they got out of the suv, then back into it, his brother was shot, wounded, almost killed, then they sort of drove -- he drove that suv himself away from there. and then fled on foot. but the question remains, how is somebody who is a 19-year-old kid, with no formal military training, who obviously was wounded, from what we know that he's here at the hospital, how he's able to evade capture for that long. apparently he used the cover of nightfall to find that boat, get underneath that tarp, and just sat there, and it was very, very close to where that incident had occurred. just a matter of blocks. in fact, our own kerry sanders yesterday had been in that vicinity for the duration of the day, and we knew this was starting to happen when kerry sanders goes we just heard gunshots. we just heard gunshots, folks moving a few blocks up. quite remarkable that he was able to evade capture, wounded, with no formal military training. that's certainly a question a lot of people are go
there were dozens upon dozens of law enforcement officials exchanging gunfire with him. apparently they got out of the suv, then back into it, his brother was shot, wounded, almost killed, then they sort of drove -- he drove that suv himself away from there. and then fled on foot. but the question remains, how is somebody who is a 19-year-old kid, with no formal military training, who obviously was wounded, from what we know that he's here at the hospital, how he's able to evade capture for...